In the previous post I mentioned my unaffiliated friend and his questions about Judaism. One of the more difficult questions he has asked me is this:
Do you have to believe in G-d to be Jewish?
He is not the first person to ask the question, but I still find it to be interesting.
What do you think?
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Yeah, I’m with Jack on this one. What exactly would Judaism be, if G-d was pulled out of the picture? A culture? Sorry, but I thought Judaism was more than just Israeli flags, overachieving moms, and bagels and lox. Stereotypes doth not a Jew make, in my opinion. So then what IS a Jew? I’m not trying to be antagonistic; I’m really trying to understand. What is a Jew?
Koftu,
You may be right, I just like asking questions, trying to drill down a little deeper to see what lies beneath.
Jack,
your question is better posed to one of those humanistic congregations, but I definitely think that there is. Even without g-d, the jewish people have plenty to offer civilization and remain a “nation” apart and simultaneously among, as if we haven’t already given enough.
If you pull G-d out of Judaism, is there a reason to be Jewish.
I identified w/your post, Koftu. I could have written it. I was raised Conservative and both of my parents are Jewish, but the stuff you wrote about G-d and your Jewish identity resonates with me.
There are some “humanistic” branches of Judaism that believe more in a messianic era than an actual “messiah.” I wouldn’t presume to say that they are not Jewish because they do not believe in G-d.
Stx,
As far as I know, you have cited the orthodox perspective on who is Jewish and who is not. As someone who is of patrilineal descent and was consecrated/bar mitzvahed under Reform auspices, I also consider myself Jewish. Unless HaShem, if he/she/it exists, personally contacts me on a line of communication that is faultless, or I have an unlikely change of heart, I don’t think I will ever undergo an Orthodox conversion rite. As far as the g-d issue goes. I don’t know if you picked it up in the last sentence or not, but I entertain serious doubts about the existence of a god, at least in the traditional form as described in Tanakh. Should I turn atheist, I will still consider myself Jewish. As of right now, I plan on considering myself Jewish until the day I die, despite the above.
No.
A Jew is a Jew. If you’re born Jewish, you ARE Jewish.
Kinda like, do you have been in touch your dad to be his kid? Na. It’s kind of a shame, because being his “kid” should be a good enough reason to keep in touch with him.
But either way, he’s still your dad.